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Did You Know and are we and the Government?
“Morally Right or Morally Wrong?”
In the opinion of the writer the question is rhetorical. The circumstances are absolutely true except that the names of the individual and dates of birth have been withheld. If, having read that which follows you agree with me, please do write to your MP, to your local paper and/or National Paper. Get your children and your grandchildren to do likewise.
John was born in February 1945. James was born in April 1945. In January 1962 each joined the RAF as an Apprentice. The Apprenticeship was for 3 years training and a commitment to serve for a minimum period of 12 years, measurable from the age of 18, until they attained the age of 30.
John and James had never met before but for the next 3 years they were to share the same billet with 17 other apprentices who ‘enlisted’ on the same day. In December 1964, at the completion of their training, with the rank of Junior Technician, they went their separate ways. Over the next 12 years plus they served at home and overseas – the latter in areas of conflict where the interests of the United Kingdom were being protected. Before they reached the age of 30 they had each attained the rank of sergeant. They were not to meet again until December 2004 at the age of 59. The occasion was a reunion for their intake to mark the 40th anniversary of their graduation (completion of training).
During the evening James remarked that he was looking forward to retiring when he
reached 60. To this John replied “You must have a better job than I have. With my
arthritis and need for a hip replacement I would love to give-
“First I’ve heard of it” replied John “I’ll have to check-
In a nutshell, the following week John contacted the MoD about his pension. The response was quite terse. I paraphrase –
“Due to the introductions of the 1973 Pensions Act which, by the Act, had to be implemented
by employers by April 1975, all persons serving on the 1st April 1975 and who had
completed a minimum of 7 years service with the Armed Forces became entitled to a
pension. Prior to the Act it was requirement that non-
Since John learned about the disparity between him and his erstwhile colleague he has learned that he is not alone. Many have contacted their respective MP. In each case the MoD response has been the same. Indeed they now have a standard response. Uncaring, intransigent, full of obfuscation and downright misleading. John also learned of one other, since deceased, who completed 19 years and who, having left before April 1975, did not receive a pension in recognition of his service with the Armed Forces.
In the opinion of The Armed Forces Pension Group Limited (AFPG) – A not-
If you do agree – work with AFPG to get this wrong put right. Thus far both the present Prime Minister and his predecessors at No 10 have declined to do anything whatsoever. He and ‘they’ are quick to comment on matters international which are shameful, they apologise for events even 100 years ago but when it comes to veterans it will always be ‘better for those who become veterans tomorrow’ but not for the veteran of today.
Have you decided, is the government and the mandarins in Whitehall “Morally Right or Morally Wrong?”
If, having read the above you agree with me that it is wrong, please do write to your MP, to your local paper and/or National Paper. Get your children and your grandchildren to do likewise.
We Need Your Help please
“Please, is there any member of AFPG or EfVA or BAFF or CAFFUK who has a relative
or friend who served before 1975 and was then over the age of 18 and who went on
to serve, for less than 22 years, beyond April 1975 and who is in receipt of a pension
from his/her service days. More important is the need for AFPG / EfVA / BAFF / CAFFUK
to know the basic detail -
If anyone can help with information can you either: email it to email@example.com or write to Nigel Lodge at the address above.
Your Campaign Needs You!!
We have asked you all many times as our members, to write to your local MP and others
requesting their support for our just cause. We are all getting a bit old in the
tooth for that even though some of us are still able; so why don’t you ask your children,
and even your Grandchildren to write to their MP asking for their support in obtaining
our just, equitable and non-
Please Consider if you can help AFPG.
Please consider if you can help by giving your time.
Parliament 2010 is a good place to start. Making your MP aware of the issues. Discussing
the MoD’s so inaccurate response is the real starting point. Phrases like in these
days of financial constraints “we can’t deal with legacy issues” are a cop out. We
must however be realistic. No Government is going to say ‘because you have been treated
wrongly we will pay pensions back to the date when you should have qualified’. We
should be explaining that we want payment from NOW. Similarly we should be considering
what we mean by Equality. As the ‘card’ that we produced at the AGM states “Equality
with whom, with what”. We cannot expect Equality with those leaving the service today.
We want Equality with our contemporaries. We want to be treated no less than the
Civil Servants who are the ONLY other Crown employees and the only other group whose
pension is non-
Please work on your MP. To date I have received letters from 42 MP's. So far follow-
Nigel H Lodge Director,
STATEMENT OF INTENT
Our aim is to secure equality of pensions for former regular members of the Armed Forces who served for fewer than 22 years at any time to April 1975 and who were discharged before 5th April 1975. This also applies to those regulars who were discharged prior to 1981 who do not meet the criteria of length of service and age. We ask Her Majesty's Government for pension rights based on years of service and related, pro rata, to pensions received by contemporaries who completed 22 years of service..
Membership of the Armed Forces Pension Group is open to all ex-
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